Map Update beyond 1326

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Just got back home after a morning full of city rides. The 1333 version was successfully updated within half an hour via USB and it works well.
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Looks like there was a delay in somebody updating the webpage but all good now.
Currently downloading the all of Europe map to a USB stick because if I'm going to do it the manual way rather than over the air, I might as well update everything even though the chances f me being allowed to drive into Europe in the coming weeks is probably zero
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m@rk wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:50 pm Looks like there was a delay in somebody updating the webpage but all good now.
Currently downloading the all of Europe map to a USB stick because if I'm going to do it the manual way rather than over the air, I might as well update everything even though the chances f me being allowed to drive into Europe in the coming weeks is probably zero
Sometimes my car is faster than I am and updates the default map by itself, but I always use USB stick to update the whole map set. It really takes less than an hour to update. On the other hand, I don't see the point of updating other regions in times of Covid-19 :(
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My car also showed an update for Northwest Europe (1326) but as of others have said, it says it’s to big to download. I therefore loaded on to my empty USB, which took about 9 minutes. I popped the USB in the car and it said it was installing. After a 40 minute journey, it still hadn’t installed. There is something wrong here!
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Dermottdog wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:05 pm My car also showed an update for Northwest Europe (1326) but as of others have said, it says it’s to big to download. I therefore loaded on to my empty USB, which took about 9 minutes. I popped the USB in the car and it said it was installing. After a 40 minute journey, it still hadn’t installed. There is something wrong here!
No, not in my experience! USB method is very very slow to install, much much slower than over the internet connection and it ties up the usb socket while it installs. I’ve known it to take over 3 hours of driving to install the UK maps. Over the air it’s usually 15-20mins.
Tried numerous different specs/makes/capacity of USB sticks but all to no avail. Gutted now that the UK maps are too big for over the air installation ☹️
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Rifleman wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:21 pm
Dermottdog wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:05 pm My car also showed an update for Northwest Europe (1326) but as of others have said, it says it’s to big to download. I therefore loaded on to my empty USB, which took about 9 minutes. I popped the USB in the car and it said it was installing. After a 40 minute journey, it still hadn’t installed. There is something wrong here!
No, not in my experience! USB method is very very slow to install, much much slower than over the internet connection and it ties up the usb socket while it installs. I’ve known it to take over 3 hours of driving to install the UK maps. Over the air it’s usually 15-20mins.
Tried numerous different specs/makes/capacity of USB sticks but all to no avail. Gutted now that the UK maps are too big for over the air installation ☹️
That’s interesting and confusing (at least for me).

Therefore I have untold questions🙄. So, I’ve just gone online and the update is now 1333 instead of 1326. So I’ve downloaded that version to USB. Took 9 minutes. So let me get my head round this. Are you saying that you download the UK and it takes 15-20 mins? Then you pop it in the car and it can take 3 hours to install? What I can’t get my head around is the 2 processes. An over the air download and a USB download are 2 different things but the install process is 1? Are you saying it’s the transfer rate from the USB to the car that’s the problem? If that’s the case, that’s a car processing issue isn’t it?

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I downloaded an intermediate version (1330), which had to be via USB stick as it was too large to be installed over the air. I started the installation in the car... minutes before 1333 was released :( . As soon as 1330 had finished installing, the car immediately started downloading version 1333 over the air and installed that. So it would appear that only some releases are too big to be installed over the air.
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Dermottdog wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:38 pm
Rifleman wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:21 pm
Dermottdog wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:05 pm My car also showed an update for Northwest Europe (1326) but as of others have said, it says it’s to big to download. I therefore loaded on to my empty USB, which took about 9 minutes. I popped the USB in the car and it said it was installing. After a 40 minute journey, it still hadn’t installed. There is something wrong here!
No, not in my experience! USB method is very very slow to install, much much slower than over the internet connection and it ties up the usb socket while it installs. I’ve known it to take over 3 hours of driving to install the UK maps. Over the air it’s usually 15-20mins.
Tried numerous different specs/makes/capacity of USB sticks but all to no avail. Gutted now that the UK maps are too big for over the air installation ☹️
That’s interesting and confusing (at least for me).

Therefore I have untold questions🙄. So, I’ve just gone online and the update is now 1333 instead of 1326. So I’ve downloaded that version to USB. Took 9 minutes. So let me get my head round this. Are you saying that you download the UK and it takes 15-20 mins? Then you pop it in the car and it can take 3 hours to install? What I can’t get my head around is the 2 processes. An over the air download and a USB download are 2 different things but the install process is 1? Are you saying it’s the transfer rate from the USB to the car that’s the problem? If that’s the case, that’s a car processing issue isn’t it?

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Confused from Orpington.
By over the air I mean letting the Sensus update the maps using the cars internet connection ( in my case the car's internal modem which uses the data sim installed in the boot ), there is no USB stick or downloading from Volvo’s website via a PC/Mac.
Bizarrely the amount of data downloaded via the sim is much less than the size of the files that are created on the USB stick if you use that method.

The slow method is download to usb stick on my PC which takes a few minutes, insert the USB stick into the car and leave it there while the map installs where it takes a few hours of driving time during which the USB port is not available for playing music from a usb stick.
The fast method is to download via the in car sim which again takes a few minutes, then the Sensus automatically installs it which usually takes less than 30mins to finish the install. The USB port can still be used for playing music from a usb stick while the map installs.

So yes, it’s a problem with the car extracting data from the usb stick.

Hope that clears up any confusion...
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There seems to be some confusion about downloading the Sensus Navigation maps, and about the time it takes to do it.

Much depends on which map one downloads, of course.

In my case, the maps of the Benelux (1 GB) and of France (4 GB) take only minutes to download and to install, whether one does that via USB or via the data SIM in the boot. The map of NW Europe (2 GB) including Great Britain also takes minutes to download and install.

But downloading and installing the map of the whole of Europe (52 GB) as I have personally done yesterday for my wife’s XC40 takes much longer. Downloading the map PC to USB stick took about 3 hours, and then installing the map from the USB stick to the Sensus Navigation in the car took about an hour and a half.

Quite logical in my opinion : the map files of just the Benelux, France, or NW Europe are only a few gigabytes each, while the map files of the whole of Europe are more than ten times larger (52 GB).

As for the question whether to use a USB stick or the internet connection in the car (the SIM card in the boot) : the smaller maps (= the smaller files) can easily be updated via the car’s internet connection, while the use of a USB stick is for the larger maps (= the larger files). However, the smaller maps can – if so wished – just as well be updated via USB stick : no problem, and it’s about as quick as using the car’s own internet connection.

I hope this helps.
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Moss wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:38 pm There seems to be some confusion about downloading the Sensus Navigation maps, and about the time it takes to do it.

Much depends on which map one downloads, of course.

In my case, the maps of the Benelux (1 GB) and of France (4 GB) take only minutes to download and to install, whether one does that via USB or via the data SIM in the boot. The map of NW Europe (2 GB) including Great Britain also takes minutes to download and install.

But downloading and installing the map of the whole of Europe (52 GB) as I have personally done yesterday for my wife’s XC40 takes much longer. Downloading the map PC to USB stick took about 3 hours, and then installing the map from the USB stick to the Sensus Navigation in the car took about an hour and a half.

Quite logical in my opinion : the map files of just the Benelux, France, or NW Europe are only a few gigabytes each, while the map files of the whole of Europe are more than ten times larger (52 GB).

As for the question whether to use a USB stick or the internet connection in the car (the SIM card in the boot) : the smaller maps (= the smaller files) can easily be updated via the car’s internet connection, while the use of a USB stick is for the larger maps (= the larger files). However, the smaller maps can – if so wished – just as well be updated via USB stick : no problem, and it’s about as quick as using the car’s own internet connection.

I hope this helps.
No, not really. It’s the 2Gb Western Europe (UK, Ireland and Iceland) that I’m quoting download/installation times for.
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